Comments on: Get it right, damn it – Christmas has NOTHING to do with Christ!

By: Swissy

Swissy — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:40:46 +0000

In light and love all. Please stop discussing, just enjoy your loved ones, respect the past. I am writing this on a mountain where I live next to a 4000 year old plus standing stone next to the back door of our 700 year old cottage. Its my families home and has been for many years, and although we’re essentially christians wed and burried on consecrated ground, we all celebrate the pagan winter solstace Dec 21st!

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The Freethinker › This game’s a must for the Yuletide stocking! — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:48:18 +0000

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By: Ed Mays

Ed Mays — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:06:22 +0000

The week of Saturnalian celebrations fits nicely into the Christmas-New Year week, with the Saturnalia falling on Christmas day. A variant of this is: Consualia (Dec 21/solstice), Saturnalia (Dec 24/Xmas Eve - so gifts come after ritual), Opalia (Dec 26 or 27); Saturnalia celebrations (Dec 25- 31); Lesser Dionysia (Dec 31/New Year’s Eve); then Roman New Year celebrations.

By: Zosima

Zosima — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:04:46 +0000

There are only so many days in the year, and there are crossover celebrations of different faiths, let Christians celebrate when and what they please and let all others do likewise. But why would anyone but a Christian call their celebration Christmas? Dec.25th has roots more ancient then the Christian world but the name “Christmas” is purely and wholly Christian.

By: Caucasian Jesus

Caucasian Jesus — Sat, 08 Dec 2007 04:59:18 +0000

I’d still bang her.

By: Sarah-Jayne Whitson

Sarah-Jayne Whitson — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:33:06 +0000

I am a pagan and I celebrate the rebirth of the sun at Yule. To reply to criag, paganism has roots expanding to eqypt with the Goddess originating from Isis and the sun god Horus as well as Roman adaptions. The reason why we think christians have hijack our yule is because Emprorer Constantine stole Mithras’s birthday and the pagan winter soltice to intince pagans to become christians. Those who did not where killed, tortured, cast outside society and treated as scum. The christians treated any “non-believers” terribly so we had to celebrate in secret. The Church then posted a slander campaign and used our deities to claim we were satan worshippers. So I am sorry if someone is offended with the truth but its about time the truth was revealed and pagans given their dues

By: Zangetsu5051

Zangetsu5051 — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 04:35:14 +0000

wow this is just too good. i always love to see Christians knocked down with facts. ahahahahahaha.

By: bware

bware — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:33:53 +0000

First, Christmas has nothing to do with creation. The girl from Dundee is drawing a conclusion based on association, clumping one creationism with the nativity story. This is obviously just a misunderstanding of her own faith. This is evidenced by the fact that a xian can practice xmas as christ’s birth, and not believe in creationism(which plenty do).

However, the title “Why Evolution is Right … and Creationism is Wrong” is a grossly inaccurate title in itself. It should be more along the lines of why creationism is not science, and evolution is a supported theory, because simply clumping them together, two radically different ideas, causes a misrepresentation of what we’re actually trying to achieve with these debates.

These are two cases of separate ideas being over-generalized. Both parties are in the wrong in my opinion.

By: S.

S. — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 21:53:16 +0000

I would say the article strives to be something it should not be. Everything that is not what you hate is not necessarily good and beautiful. To say that the pre-christian celebration of Christmas was ‘beautiful’ and ‘natural’ and ‘uplifting’ which Christianity stole sort of denies a couple things about humans in general . Because a holiday is adopted and adapted does not mean it was ’stolen’ or perverted, and just because the pagan holiday was distinctly ‘not christian’ does not mean it some beautiful thing you are lamenting the loss of, you really don’t give a damn. Also, holidays are about manifold emotions. The pagan celebration recognizes the short cold days gone, and the bright long days to come. The Christian holiday of Christmas does the same thing in a spiritual ‘once dead in sin’ to ‘now alive in Christ’ sense. Its all a fairly human thing. The rolling over of one tradition to be ’stolen’ by another is not something inherently evil just because you want it to be. Think of how the (now fairly Christian) Christmas holiday has been ‘purloined’, if you will, by modern atheists who celebrate neither the pagan nor Christian meanings, but still use symbols and trappings of both.

Anyway, this waxes long, sorry. I just don’t see a reason to complain on either side. Thanks all, Later.

By: RYATT

RYATT — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:29:54 +0000

I think it is high time people began to realise what christmas is REALLY all about - the presents!