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	<title>Comments on: Price and Prejudice</title>
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		<title>By: The Freethinker &#8250; South African church lied about the Biblical justification for White supremacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Freethinker &#8250; South African church lied about the Biblical justification for White supremacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] case comes within weeks of a gay church employee in the UK, Stephen Price, winning damages for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Rees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Rees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really hope Islington win this one. The principle is important and can be a matter of life and death - for example pharmacists refusing morning-after birth control on religious grounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope Islington win this one. The principle is important and can be a matter of life and death - for example pharmacists refusing morning-after birth control on religious grounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela Kingdom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Kingdom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine the furore if some people refused to be married by Ms Ladele because she is black.
Pot, Kettle anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine the furore if some people refused to be married by Ms Ladele because she is black.<br />
Pot, Kettle anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Valdemar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valdemar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go Islington Council! Never thought I'd write that...

I agree, Buffy - if the idiotic Ladele ruling were upheld anyone could object to almost anything. The 'great' thing about religion is that it removes the need for a rational argument - you can just go all-out for bigotry with a clear conscience. It's hatred all the way, because God decrees it.

I hope that Ladele woman loses her job, incidentally, as she could easily find a post with the Welsh gay-baiters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Islington Council! Never thought I&#8217;d write that&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree, Buffy - if the idiotic Ladele ruling were upheld anyone could object to almost anything. The &#8216;great&#8217; thing about religion is that it removes the need for a rational argument - you can just go all-out for bigotry with a clear conscience. It&#8217;s hatred all the way, because God decrees it.</p>
<p>I hope that Ladele woman loses her job, incidentally, as she could easily find a post with the Welsh gay-baiters.</p>
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		<title>By: Federico Podeschi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Federico Podeschi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Statement from Federico Podeschi, Managing Director of the LGBT Excellence Centre Wales, who represented Stephen Price.

“We are extremely delighted by the Employment Tribunal’s decision to uphold Stephen’s case.  Stephen, as well as many other service users of our Helpline, is a clear example of how you can still be discriminated against simply for being gay.  

This case particularly showed that, regardless of whether people want to “come out” or not, simply ignoring that people can be gay, lesbian, or bisexual, as well as heterosexual, is not acceptable.  It also shows that once a grievance is raised, employers have a responsibility to investigate it as a potential case of unlawful discrimination or harassment on the grounds of sexual orientation.  The Presbyterian Church of Wales failed to both acknowledge Stephen’s claim and to investigate his allegations accurately.  

The Employment Tribunal’s judgement described some of the behaviour that Stephen had to endure as grotesque and inappropriate. This should be a reminder that people can still carry prejudice and bias regardless of having a religious background or faith.  Discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation is unlawful and must be addressed. It is as simple as that.

We urge people to contact us to tell us their experience and to get advice and representation if they feel that they have been discriminated against because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.  Only through raising the issues that people still face, can we really raise awareness around what still goes on in the discrimination closet!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statement from Federico Podeschi, Managing Director of the LGBT Excellence Centre Wales, who represented Stephen Price.</p>
<p>“We are extremely delighted by the Employment Tribunal’s decision to uphold Stephen’s case.  Stephen, as well as many other service users of our Helpline, is a clear example of how you can still be discriminated against simply for being gay.  </p>
<p>This case particularly showed that, regardless of whether people want to “come out” or not, simply ignoring that people can be gay, lesbian, or bisexual, as well as heterosexual, is not acceptable.  It also shows that once a grievance is raised, employers have a responsibility to investigate it as a potential case of unlawful discrimination or harassment on the grounds of sexual orientation.  The Presbyterian Church of Wales failed to both acknowledge Stephen’s claim and to investigate his allegations accurately.  </p>
<p>The Employment Tribunal’s judgement described some of the behaviour that Stephen had to endure as grotesque and inappropriate. This should be a reminder that people can still carry prejudice and bias regardless of having a religious background or faith.  Discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation is unlawful and must be addressed. It is as simple as that.</p>
<p>We urge people to contact us to tell us their experience and to get advice and representation if they feel that they have been discriminated against because of their sexual orientation or gender identity.  Only through raising the issues that people still face, can we really raise awareness around what still goes on in the discrimination closet!”</p>
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		<title>By: Buffy</title>
		<link>http://freethinker.co.uk/2008/07/16/price-and-prejudice/comment-page-1/#comment-6803</link>
		<dc:creator>Buffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about for the next week or two all vegetarians refuse to do anything involving meat, all atheists refuse to deal with religious people, gay people refuse to serve straights, etc. Then when employers are ready to pull their hair out people will catch a clue about how outrageous it is to allow certain individuals to refuse to do their job (and to engage in bigotry) by citing their "deeply held religious beliefs".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about for the next week or two all vegetarians refuse to do anything involving meat, all atheists refuse to deal with religious people, gay people refuse to serve straights, etc. Then when employers are ready to pull their hair out people will catch a clue about how outrageous it is to allow certain individuals to refuse to do their job (and to engage in bigotry) by citing their &#8220;deeply held religious beliefs&#8221;.</p>
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